Unethical behavior by Crimson and luv2pb (n00bstories)
This is presented as a followup to our online plight as detailed
here:
n00bstories failure
The summary of the above link is that n00bstories was an excellent
gaming community for Command and Conquer renegade -- until a large
portion of the staff couldn't follow the borderline tyranical direction
from the community owner and leader (crimson and luv2pb respectively).
Drama aside, both crimson and luv2pb demonstrated childish, unethical,
and megolomania behaviors constantly -- so the reasonable staff decided
to depart as being part of their community was simply no longer in our
interest.
Unfortunately, they seem to be obssessed with us and not only continue
to mock our endeavors to create and sustain our own community through
public channels (renforums.com) with snide remarks and negative
publicity they CONTINUE to show unethical behavior in general by
actively accessing the Exodus Gaming's private forums which they had no
authorized access to. The means in which they accomplished this was
seemingly through using old passwords that some of the administrators
used when they were in the active employ under noobstories. So to
speak, both of them used that information to fraudulently access our
private forums, information, and who knows what else (the extent of
which is currently being researched and documented for potential further
action; possibly even through legal action).
Some logs (ip's masked to protect the guilty -- notice what forum luv2pb is accessing)
174.102.***.*** - - [17/Jan/2010:20:02:01 -0600] "GET
/forum/17-administrator-general-chat/ HTTP/1.1" 200 14690 "http://www.exoduscommunity.com/"
"Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR
The HTTP code 200 means "ok", meaning he was able to access that private forum; something he was not authorized to.
There are hundreds -- thousands of lines suggesting exact threads of private forums accessed by both him AND crimson dating
back a couple of months; this one just happens to be one of the more recent.
This one is crimson accessing a senior moderator board...
68.98.***.*** - - [27/Dec/2009:10:30:06 -0600] "GET /topic/1531-ts3-server/ HTTP/1.1"
200 21331 "http://www.exoduscommunity.com/forum/40-senior-moderators/" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U;
Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.6) Gecko/20091201 Firefox/3.5.6 GTB6"
OF PARTICULAR INTEREST TO SAVAGE2 PLAYERS
68.98.***.*** - - [06/Jan/2010:19:38:58 -0600] "GET /topic/1620-savage-2-server/
HTTP/1.1" 200 28935 "http://www.exoduscommunity.com/forum/40-senior-moderators/" "Mozilla/5.0
(Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.6) Gecko/20091201 Firefox/3.5.6 GTB6"
When crimson and jared found out about devitto possibly going to host a Savage2 server from our boards, which was
public,
they PREEMPTIVELY registered his name on the savage2 forum boards! Devitto was a long standing mod with us
on n00bstories. There was some confusion on the official savage2 boards because of this over who "the real devitto" was...
we found out that it was luv2pb masquerading as our devitto in ANOTHER
attempt at ANTI-COMPETITIVE BEHAVIOR and serving their own selfish ends. Correction, I mentioned this information was private at first, this information was actually public.
HOWEVER, this doesn't change the fact that crimson was actively monitoring a private thread about our own potential
savage2 server (as of this writing, we aren't interested in hosting one) -- this can be seen by the above log showing "senior
moderators" which is indeed private. Devitto has contacted me and wants to emphasize that he isn't interested in being
dragged in to this craziness, which is completely understandable. However, this information needs to be here in an effort to
record a specific instance of how NS owners abuse not only their own systems but people in general on whoever's boards or
games that they please.
Triggas calling out LUV2PB over devitto
Luv2pb went as so far to even make "devitto" have a signature of how
much he loves n00bstories.com on the official savage2 boards! Then,
in true arrogant style, went on to make "devitto" praise how awesome n00bstories is:
thread
Just to clarify, that's luv2pb himself using devitto's name, then him agreeing with himself as his real name in a clear
manuever to sway public opinion while at the same time "burning" the
REAL devitto. I will reiterate here, devitto wants all this to be dropped and has no interest in this stuff continuing.
At least the people that replied on that thread could call the troll out -- my applaud to the witty savage2 clientele.
Again, luv2pb and crimson were not ever authorized users on our forums at all and used information
about some of our accounts that they had access to while we were players and staff members on her servers. What this should mean
to ANYONE WORKING WITH N00BSTORIES is that YOUR information IS NOT SAFE AT ALL AND COULD BE USED AGAINST YOU
should you happen to play on her servers or become staff there! I cannot stress enough that they will use your private
information FOR PERSONAL GAIN and at YOUR COST.
It really amazes me that after 7 months, they still have some sort of
dischord with us and willingly compromised our systems! I'm sure they
are quite smug about how they "got in easily" and for how long they have
been doing this -- dating back to late 2009. Again, this is
completely unethical behavior on crimson and luv2pb's behalf
I'm almost at a loss for words as to even why they would want to do
that. Through some reading of luv2pb (he likes to talk) it would seem a
potential motive is that they are angry over my publishing of "private"
information of theirs (details here with
screenshots) and are maybe seeking some sort of rebuttal or vendetta
against us -- like "you stole our information so we can steal yours"
kind of thing... however the failure of logic from this comes with --
during the time we were ON their staff, we acquired that information.
We had NO other choice to make that public because if we didn't when
many of us quit, nobody would have known why. Without logs, luv2pb and
crimson could have EASILY said "they were crazy" and that we would of
had to "prove" how they treated us poorly, etc. We HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO
PUBLISH THEIR INFORMATION AS OUR DEFENSE and to explain our actions to
those curious -- which was an obvious problem to them. This is in contrast to 2
people that compromised our system which they had no right to in the
first place FOR PERSONAL GAIN. This is a complete opposite of why we
"stole" their private information. We had to because they were
censoring the information about themselves to the point to where it was
"our word" versus theirs and nobody would have believed us (not to
mention there was too much stuff going on at the time). How can they argue with
screenshots of what they THEMSELVES posted? Our proof of cause is
EASILY seen just by reading who they are and how they act... and now we
have this little situation of them accessing stuff they never had
rights to -- more importantly, we don't want anything to do with them,
nor planned on it until this was instigated.
The purpose of writing this is not to drag on this topic (again... as of
the time of this writing, our original problem with them happened 7
months ago)... the purpose is to CAUTION anyone and ANY community dealing with crimson and
luv2pb with documented evidence about what they do and how they mistreat others that "don't do what we
want". They WILL attempt to be the center of things because they THRIVE
on the attention and then tell everyone that doesn't like their ways to
go %$#@ themselves.
After dealing with both of them for almost 7 years in my employ at
noobstories, I can say this... they seem to be fun loving people and
"generous" to any community they want to wow -- but that's one of their
hugest flaws... they DEMAND to be appreciated because they drop cash on
things. They continuously fail to see that respect is usually earned
through your actions and kept through mutual respect of people, not
because you can buy it.
I am actually kind of shocked that BOTH of them stooped this low; we
don't even have anything of value for them?
Why did they desperately want access to our private information?
The only other thing I could think of is that my "archive" of their misdeeds
hurt them somehow recently and they are seeking some sort of retaliation -- so, I went ahead and made this follow up for anyone that might be
interested.
UPDATE:
One of the compromised accounts on Exodus Gaming forums was linked ONLY
to renforums.com -- meaning crimson and/or luv2pb acquired
private information in the ONLY hub of renegade left about one of our
moderators on our private server FOR THEIR PERSONAL GAIN. What does this mean? Crimson is
completely out of control and uses anything she wants while putting the
front that she "does a lot for the community" -- this post is calling
foul... she used a website that she leads for something that is of
questionable ethics and borderline illegal. Not surprisingly, after our
first problem with n00bstories in 2009, this website was actually
censored from renforums.com so that people could not find out damning
information about her and her ways. These acts are a huge slap in the
face of anyone that trusts anything that Christine Korza (crimson)
touches in the online world. If you want to know more about her, you
can EASILY find anything you want about her on her twitter (or a simple
google search).